Comments on: The future of Flash video players http://blog.cubical.se/2009/12/the-future-of-flash-video-players/ Anders Kavcic's Blog - Design, Flash development & more Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:54:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Expanded video player UI concept | Netdump http://blog.cubical.se/2009/12/the-future-of-flash-video-players/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Expanded video player UI concept | Netdump Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:07:12 +0000 http://blog.cubical.se/?p=204#comment-178 [...] of the features that are revealed when flipping the menu are explained in my “The future of Flash video players”. I believe that video players need give the user more control over video playback, than the most [...] [...] of the features that are revealed when flipping the menu are explained in my “The future of Flash video players”. I believe that video players need give the user more control over video playback, than the most [...]

]]> By: Anders http://blog.cubical.se/2009/12/the-future-of-flash-video-players/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Anders Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:27:04 +0000 http://blog.cubical.se/?p=204#comment-174 @Christian Yep, I also worry about codec issues. Yes, maybe I should start to develop a new player? That was not my plan actually - perhaps there is someone out the who want to join me in this crazy project? Haha. @Christian

Yep, I also worry about codec issues. Yes, maybe I should start to develop a new player? That was not my plan actually - perhaps there is someone out the who want to join me in this crazy project? Haha.

]]> By: Anders http://blog.cubical.se/2009/12/the-future-of-flash-video-players/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Anders Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:20:36 +0000 http://blog.cubical.se/?p=204#comment-173 Hey Johan, thanks for your comment! Yep, the I agree that a lot of space is covered with my solution. Some kind of floating menu, like the "+" icon on viddler.com might be better. Initially I was thinking of having traditional remote control "playback speed buttons" next to the start & stop buttons, but I chose to go with this xbox-style speed selector. I will play around with it. I think the "Go To Frame" feature comes in handy once you have seen the video, or while you are looking at it, and you want to go back to a certain point in time. At least I often have the need for this... Ah, that's the "TV3 Play" player I have up there. I will correct that... Working with Kanal 5 Play sounds like a great project! No, problem not solved! This thing definately needs more time :) My main goal with the post was to get at discussion started. And I'm glad you took your time to comment. Hey Johan, thanks for your comment! Yep, the I agree that a lot of space is covered with my solution. Some kind of floating menu, like the “+” icon on viddler.com might be better.

Initially I was thinking of having traditional remote control “playback speed buttons” next to the start & stop buttons, but I chose to go with this xbox-style speed selector. I will play around with it.

I think the “Go To Frame” feature comes in handy once you have seen the video, or while you are looking at it, and you want to go back to a certain point in time. At least I often have the need for this…

Ah, that’s the “TV3 Play” player I have up there. I will correct that… Working with Kanal 5 Play sounds like a great project!

No, problem not solved! This thing definately needs more time :) My main goal with the post was to get at discussion started. And I’m glad you took your time to comment.

]]> By: Christian Pellving http://blog.cubical.se/2009/12/the-future-of-flash-video-players/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Christian Pellving Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:00:56 +0000 http://blog.cubical.se/?p=204#comment-172 Cool! I want this. However I think that the codec in Flash has its downfalls of keyframes and skipping frames and time. But I can be wrong. If you use On2 VP6 or H.264 it will be a different equation and limitations. However, start the development. I really would like to see it and use it! /Christian Pellving Cool! I want this. However I think that the codec in Flash has its downfalls of keyframes and skipping frames and time. But I can be wrong. If you use On2 VP6 or H.264 it will be a different equation and limitations.

However, start the development. I really would like to see it and use it!

/Christian Pellving

]]> By: Johan Ronnestam http://blog.cubical.se/2009/12/the-future-of-flash-video-players/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Johan Ronnestam Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:48:20 +0000 http://blog.cubical.se/?p=204#comment-171 Hey, One of my favorites - Joost - have redone their video interface. But back when they launched it a couple of years back - It Rocked! Personally I think http://www.vimeo.com combined with http://www.viddler.com/ got the ultimate solution. Vimeo's player is one of the few that makes the video bar disappear once you start playing that video. Viddler on the other hand has got some great functionality that solves the chapters and also visitor interaction in a great way. One thing I like with yours is playback speed. From one perspective it might seem stupid since the functionality was once invented cause you wanted to fast forward...I mean you couldn't move to a specific frame without doing that. But on the other hand I find myself interested in videos every now and then that are too long and I want to skim through them. This would be good. I would however use standard buttons, the ones we have on remote controls. Your own suggestion contains lots of great functionality but I do think you are covering up to much of the actual video content. Viddlers functionality seems smarter in that way. Go to frame might seem good, but how many people do actually know which frame to go to? (I worked out the strategy for the new Kanal5Play (and it's not that player above) and also Art Directed and designed it. And we looked a lot at Vimeo since that one works great from a usability point of view...after all, the less buttons visible the more people understand how to interact once they look for it) Kind of a blurry comment. I do like the initiative and the problem you state is absolutely something to solve! Not quite there yet though? Hey,

One of my favorites - Joost - have redone their video interface. But back when they launched it a couple of years back - It Rocked!

Personally I think http://www.vimeo.com combined with http://www.viddler.com/ got the ultimate solution. Vimeo’s player is one of the few that makes the video bar disappear once you start playing that video. Viddler on the other hand has got some great functionality that solves the chapters and also visitor interaction in a great way.

One thing I like with yours is playback speed. From one perspective it might seem stupid since the functionality was once invented cause you wanted to fast forward…I mean you couldn’t move to a specific frame without doing that. But on the other hand I find myself interested in videos every now and then that are too long and I want to skim through them. This would be good. I would however use standard buttons, the ones we have on remote controls.

Your own suggestion contains lots of great functionality but I do think you are covering up to much of the actual video content. Viddlers functionality seems smarter in that way.

Go to frame might seem good, but how many people do actually know which frame to go to?

(I worked out the strategy for the new Kanal5Play (and it’s not that player above) and also Art Directed and designed it. And we looked a lot at Vimeo since that one works great from a usability point of view…after all, the less buttons visible the more people understand how to interact once they look for it)

Kind of a blurry comment. I do like the initiative and the problem you state is absolutely something to solve! Not quite there yet though?

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